01.20.2011 - Beauty III

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    eldir Resident: Hello again, most others :)
    Xeno Octavia: hi all!!
    Mickorod Renard: thats a beautiful subject
    Wol Euler: hello everyone
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Xeno
    Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Folks!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Wol
    Dao Yheng: Hi all!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Eliza
    Dao Yheng: Yes, one of the unexpected side benefits of discussing beauty is getting a lot of interesting links to art and images :)
    Avy Runner: men, what you call walking is taking my breath away
    Avy Runner: hi everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: I will leave a littl early today, BUT my daughter will turn off the computer at 3:15 so I will post the session log :)
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Avy
    Dao Yheng: Hi Avy -- you always make a good entrance
    Wol Euler: :)
    Avy Runner: :)
    Wol Euler: great av, avy
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Avy :D
    Avy Runner: hmmmm
    Eliza Madrigal: Dao, I'm on a diff computer today... do you have the ways of knowing link?
    Dao Yheng: http://waysofknowing.kira.org/
    Mickorod Renard: Avy, isnt it risky sitting next to big bad Gilles?
    Wol Euler: avy is the only one not at risk :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks much... you had a wonderful quote
    Wol Euler: being made of plastic :)
    Avy Runner: I think I'm not tasty to him :)
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
    Avy Runner: only plastic
    Eliza Madrigal: from Dao's report:

    "“There are various orders of beauty, causing men to make fools of themselves in various styles... but there is one order of beauty which seems made to turn the heads not only of men, but of all intelligent mammals, even of women. It is a beauty like that of kittens, or very small downy ducks making gentle rippling noises with their soft bills, or babies just beginning to toddle and to engage in conscious mischief — a beauty with which you can never be angry, but that you feel ready to crush for inability to comprehend the state of mind into which it throws you.”
    George Eliot

    Eliza Madrigal: really nice, thanks Dao
    Avy Runner: :)
    Mickorod Renard: Avy, isnt it riskyyea,,ty
    Mickorod Renard: ignor that,,delayed words
    Avy Runner: :)
    Xeno Octavia: i remember a book on Navaho and Tibetan that said navaho 'Beauty' equive to Tibetan 'Truth'
    Eliza Madrigal: how interesting Xeno
    Wol Euler: John Keats said much the same thing
    Xeno Octavia: was kool book
    Wol Euler: Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
    Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.
    Zon Kwan: hm..isnt beauty what is inside us
    Gilles Kuhn: i would like to stay but i have something to settle...... too bad about beauty dont forget plato and the banquet btw :-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Thanks Gilles
    Wol Euler: bye gilles, ravage and slaughter well :)
    Mickorod Renard: bye Gilles
    Dao Yheng: bye gilles!
    Avy Runner: bye gilles
    Xeno Octavia: bye
    Gilles Kuhn: lol yep cry havoc and unleash the dogs of war ! ;-)
    Wol Euler: ;:))
    Eliza Madrigal: so is beauty something visceral?
    Xeno Octavia: not on med shows
    Eliza Madrigal: both those quotes seem to point to 'knowing'
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) X
    Wol Euler: our reaction to it is perhaps
    Mickorod Renard: sometimes ones opinion is directed dependant on how cynical a mood one is in..in my opinion
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    Zon Kwan: beauty is in the eye of the beholder
    Eliza Madrigal: so you miss beauty when closed down or preoccupied....
    Wol Euler: /me nods.
    Xeno Octavia: so is truth then??
    Eliza Madrigal: so there is an open quality....
    Eliza Madrigal: ?
    Zon Kwan: truth, beauty, goodness are all perspectives of the existence
    Zon Kwan: different aspects
    Eliza Madrigal: Avy would you like to say something about your homework report? was nicely written : http://waysofknowing.kira.org/3Reports/Avy_Runner/Report_79
    Xeno Octavia: existence tho --is all illusun

    Avy Runner: well I wonder what beauty exist of
    Avy Runner: what it appeals in us
    Mickorod Renard: there appears to be beauty in ones lives when one is comfortable,,and also beauty when one needs to look for it,,somewhere in the middle we are a bit lost in daily activities to notice..
    Zon Kwan: what we want is beautiful to us
    Avy Runner: and besids beauty I found something I named 'interesting'
    Eliza Madrigal: ?
    Avy Runner: which can give us an awe, but is that necesarrily beauty
    Mickorod Renard: there is something beautful in interesting
    Zon Kwan: we dont want somethig cause its beautiful, but it is beautiful cause we want it
    Avy Runner: it is part of what I have been thinkin on in our last discussion
    Eliza Madrigal: Cal uses the word 'uncanny' which is interesting in this context
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm, nods
    Eliza Madrigal: sometimes people want things because they think others will find them beautiful for having it...
    Avy Runner: maybe there is an evolutionary description of beauty
    Avy Runner: a spiritual one
    Avy Runner: an art one
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe, nice distinction... but both point to a kind of life evoked
    Eliza Madrigal: drawing out, noticing...

    Dao Yheng: 'interesting' is maybe what we call those things that call out an adversive reaction, but still see some sense of presence or quality there?
    Alfred Kelberry: *peeks into the window*
    Eliza Madrigal: mmmm, nods... presence
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Alf :)
    Avy Runner: adversive reaction yes, sounds right
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: *waves*

    Mickorod Renard: I was hinking earlier doday,,whilst driving to work,,at how we need beauty to find the desire to bring up babies..otherwise we would be too selfish
    Mickorod Renard: Hi alf
    Wol Euler: get your corrugated butt in here, boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: is it ways of knowing?
    Eliza Madrigal: haha, yes Alf
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Avy Runner: hi Alf
    Eliza Madrigal: so the evolutionary aspect, Mick.. beauty and love
    eldir Resident: alf, how can you look in the window. you are too short
    Eliza Madrigal: heheh
    Alfred Kelberry: on my tiptoes :)
    Avy Runner: :) Edir
    eldir Resident: but full of beauty
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I saw dead kangaroo on the roadside and thought of them carying their babies in the pouch
    Avy Runner: wow, he climbed the kiliminjaro in one attempt :)
    Alfred Kelberry: cute avy, avy :)
    Avy Runner: thanks boxy :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Zen
    Zen Arado: Hi all
    Avy Runner: hi Zen
    Zon Kwan: zen
    Eliza Madrigal: babies are born with huge evokative eyes one can stare into forever... does seem to help take care of them....
    Alfred Kelberry: poor kangaroo
    Dao Yheng: In a sense, all children are born out of a love for beauty

    Mickorod Renard: but I questioned,,what would make an animal,,without deep thought,do such wonderful things bringing their young up

    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
    Xeno Octavia: an i thought love for s--
    Zon Kwan: nature makes me see beautiful those issues i need to do..like make babies
    Alfred Kelberry: dao, sometimes it's just lust
    Mickorod Renard: there is something inbred in us to feel for beauty
    Eliza Madrigal: /me nods...
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mitsu :)
    Zen Arado: isn't it an evolutionarily reinforced behaviour pattern?
    Avy Runner: hi mtisu
    Zen Arado: Hi Mitsu
    Mitsu Ishii: hi. managed to get through the wall before it rezzed
    Dao Yheng: yeah, but how do you decide who you're going to lust after?
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Mitsu
    Mitsu Ishii: I am on a very slow connection here
    Zon Kwan: ur sobconscious
    Zon Kwan: calculates
    eldir Resident: Helo Mitsu
    Zon Kwan: who is the best mother
    Zon Kwan: for ur genes
    Avy Runner: looking into babies eyes, sounds like evolutionary beauty yes
    Alfred Kelberry: yes... beauty can take many forms...
    Zen Arado: we are genetically programmed to behave that way?
    Xeno Octavia: how we act is a cultural interp of genetic pattern
    Eliza Madrigal: beauty decides... that seems to be what was said by first quotes...
    Mickorod Renard: as childen,,do we see beauty like we do as adults?
    Zon Kwan: something in us decides..then we see it as beautiful
    Eliza Madrigal: but what beauty is, is different at various angles and points in life
    Mickorod Renard: or does it come at puberty?
    Ataraxia Azemus: Good question Mickorod!
    Avy Runner: yes
    Xeno Octavia: no zen we are setup genetically but act memetically
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ataraxia
    Ataraxia Azemus: Hi everyone :)
    Avy Runner: hi Ataraxia
    Mickorod Renard: hi Ataraxia
    Xeno Octavia: hi Atari kool ta see ya : ))
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, it's refined in puberty by social norms

    Zen Arado: animals don't use memes do they?
    Avy Runner: and jazz
    Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Xeno :)
    Zen Arado: thought that was human ideas
    Eliza Madrigal: what do we know about that really....
    Jazzmine Jenkins: hi everyone
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Zen Arado: Hi Xeno, Ataraxia
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Jazz
    Zen Arado: Hi Jasmine
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Jazz
    Ataraxia Azemus: I like to hope that our notion of beauty is refined throughout life
    Eliza Madrigal: /me nods
    Avy Runner: if we as humans can distingues different kinds of beauty, there must be more then just the genetical one
    Zen Arado: refined a good word
    Xeno Octavia: oh u mean memeetics no --genotype to pheno type to memotype --all we do is memetic
    Alfred Kelberry: ata, it sure is
    Eliza Madrigal: more complex and accepting and maybe 'interesting'
    Zon Kwan: thee is the Beauty..and things that express that beauty
    Avy Runner: yes
    Avy Runner: maybe it is even more in our ability to question
    Zen Arado: not too good on biology :(
    Ataraxia Azemus: I think I have several notions of beauty, actually, and I switch them around as I need to
    Alfred Kelberry: i recall a quote from sting who once said that he would forbid to make love before 40 :)
    Eliza Madrigal: that said, I have to go, but as I mentioned I will be here in av until my dd turns off the computer
    (unless SL logs me off- hope not)
    Zen Arado: bye Eliza
    Dao Yheng: bye Eliza!
    Mickorod Renard: bye Eiza
    Avy Runner: bye Eliza
    Alfred Kelberry: eliza :)
    Ataraxia Azemus: Bye Eliza :)
    Xeno Octavia: yes Alf but he sed none after 41!
    Wol Euler: bye eliza, take care
    Xeno Octavia: bye Eliza

    Mickorod Renard: beauty for me seems to generate some sort of chemical change in me
    Mickorod Renard: some sort of soothing flow
    Alfred Kelberry: xeno, can you testify for validity of this quote? :)
    Avy Runner: /me raises his eyebrows, he doesn't have, making love between 40 and 41

    Ataraxia Azemus: Is anyone familiar with Schopenhauer's aesthetic bliss?
    Alfred Kelberry: nope
    Avy Runner: sorry, no
    Alfred Kelberry: do tell
    Mickorod Renard: tell us more?
    Xeno Octavia: lol Avy --sense of humor a thing of beauty and humanities saving grace
    Avy Runner: hehehe
    Zen Arado: sounds interesting Atarazia
    Xeno Octavia: Atari i rememb it wasnt women
    Avy Runner: Ihave some thoughts about humor and beauty, but will leave the floor to Schopenhauer

    Ataraxia Azemus: It's been too long for me to get all the jargon right, but the idea is that, because life is imperfect and never meets our expectations, we can only find lasting happiness in works of transcendent beauty, in which we momentarily forget ourselves
    Mickorod Renard: I can sense that in some way
    Ataraxia Azemus: Schop wasn't as harsh on women as he gets a rep for...he'd have respected anyone who called him on it :)
    Zen Arado: not sure that works for me
    Alfred Kelberry: ah, yes... it's like a sudden minute of happiness
    Xeno Octavia: like when SL is so kool we forgets FL : ))
    Alfred Kelberry: i remember those
    Ataraxia Azemus: Well, he was grumpy. It just came to mind.
    Avy Runner: getting involved in an 'object' forgetting who is what
    Zen Arado: he was rather pessimistic I think
    Ataraxia Azemus: Yes, Avy, Xeno

    Ataraxia Azemus: We become beauty, when we see it
    Avy Runner: no observer, no object of observation, no observing
    Ataraxia Azemus: Just a smidge
    Zon Kwan: we project beauty
    Zen Arado: wonder what kind of transcendent beauty he meant?
    Xeno Octavia: yes more pessy than misogyny
    eldir Resident: I nned to leave now, thank you all
    Zon Kwan: waves...
    Ataraxia Azemus: It could be anything, Zen. Anything that moves us enough to forget ourselves. A work of art, a natural scene...
    Mickorod Renard: bye Eldir
    Wol Euler: bye eldir, take carte
    Wol Euler: *care
    Ataraxia Azemus: Bye Eldir :)
    Xeno Octavia: nite Eld
    Avy Runner: bye eldir

    Dao Yheng: Interesting that "forgetting ourselves" is part of the picture
    Mickorod Renard: there is that situation where ones legs even give way
    Mickorod Renard: that is true forget oneselves
    Xeno Octavia: must forget our egoselves to experience real selves
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, maybe it's when projection of your mind meets a perfect match in rl?
    Xeno Octavia: whispers: ??
    Mickorod Renard: for something so lovely as beauty,,in all its forms,,I am supprised the human race isnt addicted to it more
    Alfred Kelberry: just for a second
    Zen Arado: not many things move me that much

    Ataraxia Azemus: Yes. Sometimes we're too caught up in oufselves, and this then wonderful thing just makes us gasp and say, "Wow."

    Then we're really looking.

    Zen Arado: guess i'm an old grump too
    Dao Yheng: it is amazing the way our whole body responds
    Avy Runner: maybe we are Mick, without knowing, taking it as 'normal'
    Alfred Kelberry: *zaps zen lightly* :)
    Mickorod Renard: mmm
    Avy Runner: maybe beauty is attachment
    Dao Yheng: even the way the eyes focus
    Mickorod Renard: its one attachment i am happy with
    Xeno Octavia: do we still experience that --when we at point to see ALL IS BEAUTY
    Zen Arado: if we wnat more of the same experience it is
    Avy Runner: no, it is attachement once we call it beauty
    Alfred Kelberry: "all is beauty" is an utopia

    Zen Arado: it might lose the beauty if we attach
    Zen Arado: we kill it
    Avy Runner: yes Zen
    Xeno Octavia: no it is understanding!!
    Ataraxia Azemus: Can beauty make our lives more fulfilling, even when they aren't beautiful?
    Mickorod Renard: there does seem a way to see beauty even in the most bad situations
    Ataraxia Azemus: Brain jinx :)
    Zen Arado: if we can learn to see beauty in more things around us is better
    Zen Arado: yes Mick
    Wol Euler: /me excuses herself quietly and slips away. Goodnight all, be beautiful.
    Zen Arado: nite Wol
    Xeno Octavia: attachment is to pareticular instance of 'beauty' but BEAUTY is actually detachmewnt
    Ataraxia Azemus: Goodnight Wol :)
    Mickorod Renard: I try nd do this at work,,for others in stress
    Xeno Octavia: nite Wol
    Mickorod Renard: bye Wol
    Ataraxia Azemus: Yes, I'm with Xeno on that
    Dao Yheng: How so, Mickorod?
    Avy Runner: hmmmm, would like to have a closer look on that Xeno
    Xeno Octavia: : )
    Ataraxia Azemus: But beauty is maybe involvement
    Zen Arado: sorry caps
    Mickorod Renard: I ty and turn things around,,at bad times,,and find the beauty in the situation,,it helps lots
    Xeno Octavia: beauty diff than BEAUTY [DHARMA}
    Alfred Kelberry: zen, how do you see beauty in more things?
    Zen Arado: so beauty is a mindset?
    Xeno Octavia: tru involve deeply only possib with detachment
    Zen Arado: looking at them more closely is one way Boxy
    Avy Runner: I think so
    Zen Arado: looking for the beauty
    Avy Runner: but if we are involved, we no longer would call it beauty
    Xeno Octavia: avoid or attachg screws it up [to b vernacular ] : )
    Zen Arado: getting under our preconceptions
    Mickorod Renard: perhaps this is a way of knowing,,all bad things can also have beauty
    Alfred Kelberry: what's beauty for you?
    Avy Runner: and looking for the beauty in bad situations is beauty used in another context
    Dao Yheng: I suppose I feel shy about beauty in those troubled situations, Mick, afraid I'm going to trivalize it
    Avy Runner: I agree with that too

    Alfred Kelberry: what does pop in your mind when you hear "beauty"?

    Zen Arado: as Cal said last week even an oil spull can have a type of beauty
    Xeno Octavia: every thing has its own beauty/Beauty ask flies about sh--
    Ataraxia Azemus: I understand that, Dao
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I will go with the flow
    Zen Arado: for who Boxy?
    Ataraxia Azemus: "Beauty" is more or less synonymous with "meaningful" for me
    Dao Yheng: But at the same time, I'm intrigued -- will try it again sometime, and if doesn't work, I'll tell 'em Mick told me to do it!
    Avy Runner: I think looking for beauty does not mean trivilizing the situation
    Alfred Kelberry: zen, you and others
    Zen Arado: it means looking deeper
    Avy Runner: looking for beauty can keep you away from putting a tag on it and barrying it
    Zen Arado: I like colours
    Ataraxia Azemus: Even scary, sad things can be beautiful if there's some meaningful quality there; sometimes especially sad things
    Zen Arado: colours of flowers and shrubs
    Alfred Kelberry: zen, give us an image :)
    Avy Runner: looking for beauty means, it shows ways to be able to deal with the troubled situation
    Alfred Kelberry: first thing that comes to you
    Mickorod Renard: is not karma beauty in progress?
    Zen Arado: like red azaleas with sunlit hitting them in spring
    Avy Runner: not necesarilly
    Alfred Kelberry: zen, nice :)
    Ataraxia Azemus: If your karma leads you through something beautiful
    Ataraxia Azemus: Yeah, that's not circular at ALL! :)
    Xeno Octavia: hi Cal
    Avy Runner: hi Cal
    Alfred Kelberry: i think sharing images gives us that deeper meaning that we look for :)
    Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Calvino
    Calvino Rabeni: hello everyone
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Cal
    Alfred Kelberry: hi, cal

    Avy Runner: I'm wondering if we have wondered off from beauty :)
    Mickorod Renard: perhaps
    Avy Runner: *wandered
    Zen Arado: Hi Cal :)
    Ataraxia Azemus: Detours often lead you to beauty...the scenic route :)
    Mickorod Renard: I think its a broad subjeect
    Xeno Octavia: whispers: Cal can give a definitive definition ??
    Avy Runner: we get in the things that are connected to beauty
    Alfred Kelberry: ata, yes, break out of a habit to a new perspective
    Zen Arado: it is indefinable I think
    Calvino Rabeni: /me prefers poetically suggestive definitions to definitive definitions
    Avy Runner: if we would have the time, maybe yes
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, what's your picture of beauty?
    Zen Arado: means so many things to different people
    Ataraxia Azemus: I think surprise may be an aspect of beauty, as well as deep recognition
    Ataraxia Azemus: Definitely :)
    Xeno Octavia: i likes ambi guity too!!
    Alfred Kelberry: zen, then maybe we can define emotions that beauty inflect on us?
    Dao Yheng: hmm, nice Ataraxia
    Zen Arado: as is the old and familiar with the patina of age
    Mickorod Renard: Alf, I have said too much already
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, ok :)
    Calvino Rabeni: <me> <heart> <ambiguity>
    Zen Arado: think that's even harder boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: i just like seeing pictures :)
    Xeno Octavia: : ) Cal
    Zen Arado: different people react so differently
    Zen Arado: to the same object
    Avy Runner: I have one boxy, my contribution last week
    Alfred Kelberry: avy?
    Avy Runner: adn we had a lot of pictures last week
    Dao Yheng: Mickorod, it's always a pleasure to listen to you!
    Alfred Kelberry: i missed those :)
    Mickorod Renard: :) ty
    Mickorod Renard: I like the idea of being in space and seeing the earth blue
    Mickorod Renard: but as we know,,all on earth is not so perfect
    Xeno Octavia: yes better blue than blown

    Calvino Rabeni: I missed the start ... Eliza was there any carrover from the PaB session topic on appreciating appearance?
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, pale blue dot :)
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Dao Yheng: Cal, Eliza is afk at the moment
    Calvino Rabeni: Ok,...
    Dao Yheng: but it sounds interesting -- do you have something in mind about the appreciating appearance angle?
    Zen Arado: yes I missed that
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, Beauty as the experiential event of appreciating the appearance of Being ...
    Alfred Kelberry: mick, i like the idea of visiting voyager and keep him company now and then. he's so lonely out there...
    Calvino Rabeni: In other words it distinguishes beauty as experience, from beauty as an externally imposed image schema
    Xeno Octavia: so all is beauty since all is Being
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I think potentially it *could* be
    Ataraxia Azemus: There's a science fiction story about that that I love, Alfred :)
    Alfred Kelberry: ata, really? what story?
    Calvino Rabeni: like the story of mohammed and the stray dog
    Avy Runner: /me feels some naussia by the words 'appreciating the appearance of being'
    Calvino Rabeni: Avy :)
    Alfred Kelberry: avy :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I know what you mean
    Calvino Rabeni: It's not a good move
    Zen Arado: feel it too Avy
    Mickorod Renard: there ust b layer of observation,,and beuaty is resident on certain ones
    Xeno Octavia: how bout Being the appreciation of appearance
    Zen Arado: is beauty inherent to something or do we attach it on as a property?
    Mickorod Renard: scuse my spelling
    Ataraxia Azemus: I'm not sure of the title, but it's in Yukinobu Hoshino's 2001 Nights series....an early AI space probe is visited by one of the astronauts who helped build him some 50 years later.
    Calvino Rabeni: I like the angle of stepping right into the immediate act of appearing
    Alfred Kelberry: ata,oh! sounds exciting :)
    Dao Yheng: ooh, story time?
    Ataraxia Azemus: It's bittersweet and, well, beautiful :)
    Alfred Kelberry: like schweppes
    Mickorod Renard: had it felt as if it had been abandoned?

    Zen Arado: I remember trying to make eggs look beautiful in a painting
    Avy Runner: :) Zen
    Calvino Rabeni: what is the trick, Zen?
    Zen Arado: no really
    Xeno Octavia: try Dragon eggs
    Zen Arado: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjhtaylor/2413554868/
    Ataraxia Azemus: She had, Mick; he'd just continued on his voyage, reminiscing about their past together.
    Zen Arado: tried to add colours
    Calvino Rabeni: very nice, Zen :) thanks
    Alfred Kelberry: oh, i thought of fried eggs for some reason :)
    Mickorod Renard: its funny how we an have feelings for things that are artificial
    Zen Arado: there is more colour in everyday objects than we often realize until we look closely
    Dao Yheng: difficult to paint light -- well done!
    Avy Runner: nice eggs :)
    Calvino Rabeni: the looking reveals the colors
    Avy Runner: that's your stomich talking boxy :)
    Zen Arado: the utilitarian version of eggs boxy :)
    Calvino Rabeni: yes, a beautiful painting

    Dao Yheng: Er, hmm -- topic for next week?
    Alfred Kelberry: zen gogh! http://www.flickr.com/photos/jjhtayl...n/photostream/
    Mickorod Renard: my laptop is slow
    Zen Arado: well you see how I love colour anyway
    Zen Arado: just my taste
    Zen Arado: I have a suggestion
    Avy Runner: yes, topic for next week
    Zen Arado: if no one else has
    Alfred Kelberry: painting is hard
    Dao Yheng: Have we ever tried this one that Eliza posted? http://waysofknowing.kira.org/Homework_Ideas/Basic_Goodness
    Xeno Octavia: i tend ta elementary badness
    Dao Yheng: hee hee!
    Ataraxia Azemus: I like this topic
    Mickorod Renard: wow,,nice Zen
    Dao Yheng: maybe choose teams and we'll have tug of war next time!
    Avy Runner: war??
    Zen Arado: thought we did that one Dao? I remember the bright pearl
    Zen Arado: but ok with me
    Dao Yheng: also mentions Mickorod's (blue) dot
    Avy Runner: /me feels getting pale around the nose
    Xeno Octavia: by the way folks just got thgis message:
    Xeno Octavia: You are invited to attend Buddhist readings by Mojo Manamiko at 4 PM SLT in the main temple of the Buddha Center - in voice
    Ataraxia Azemus: Thanks, Xeno :)
    Zen Arado: too late for me
    Zen Arado: thanks anyway
    Mickorod Renard: ty Xeno
    Dao Yheng: thanks Xeno!
    Xeno Octavia: oh and : http://slurl.com/secondlife/Buddhism/137/130/21
    Zen Arado: I need my beauty sleep :)
    Alfred Kelberry: *finds a cosy spot next to eliza*
    Avy Runner: I need sleep period :)

    Mickorod Renard: is Gaya ok?
    Ataraxia Azemus: Sleep? I've heard of that.
    Alfred Kelberry: gaya? what's wrong?
    Dao Yheng: Yes, good question!
    Mickorod Renard: wondered where she is
    Alfred Kelberry: i've seen her a few days ago
    Alfred Kelberry: she was fine
    Zen Arado: she was o last night
    Zen Arado: ok
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,ty
    Zen Arado: might be busy getting ready for retreat next week
    Alfred Kelberry: made me a bit worry for our cute bunny gaya :)
    Dao Yheng: she's excused for tonight then :)
    Avy Runner: so..... how are we going to do this 'war'?
    Alfred Kelberry: what war?
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye all :)
    Dao Yheng: OK, Let's do basic goodness (since some of us don't remember it :) and we'll think of something really new next time!
    Mickorod Renard: bye Cal
    Zen Arado: sure
    Ataraxia Azemus: Bye Calvino :)
    Zen Arado: bye Cal
    Avy Runner: Dao Yheng: maybe choose teams and we'll have tug of war next time!
    Avy Runner: bye Cal
    Zen Arado: searches for his basic goodness.....
    Zen Arado: hard to find....
    Dao Yheng: right -- or elementary badness!
    Avy Runner: my goodness !!
    Dao Yheng: Nice sitting with you all -- have a good evening!
    Zen Arado: different from Christianity where we are all rotten sinners
    Ataraxia Azemus: Goodnight Dao :)
    Zen Arado: bye Dao
    Avy Runner: bye Dao
    Mickorod Renard: bye Dao, take care
    Mickorod Renard: I must sneak out too..thanks for the evening
    Xeno Octavia: yes my badness not basic just worldly dispaly : ))
    Zen Arado: nite Mick
    Avy Runner: I'm going too, nite everyone
    Mickorod Renard: nite all
    Avy Runner: or have a good day :)
    Zen Arado: nite avy
    Alfred Kelberry: um, boxy has to go too
    Ataraxia Azemus: Goodnight Mick and Avy :)
    Alfred Kelberry: meep!
    Zen Arado: nite boxy
    Ataraxia Azemus: And everyone else!
    Zen Arado: I'm off too then
    Xeno Octavia: btw if any of u havent seen Unity's --creation story' go do aso
    Zen Arado: ok
    Zen Arado: nite all
    Xeno Octavia: yup is bye time

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