06.09.2011 - What is important to us?

[02:01 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: How are you feeling today Bruce?
[02:01 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Let's give a couple more minutes then start.
[02:05 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Pila: It would have been better phrased as simply 'what do you think is an important idea or subject?' Let's see what people bring to a pot luck dinner of thoughts when an open topic is invited. Mine would probably be one of several favorites, such as 'is karma personal?' If we first go around the circle with each person offering their idea or subject, it will result in (1) some material for future sessions and (2) a number of perhaps nuanced but probably apparent overlaps (or even duplications) of ideas and subjects.
[02:06 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Pila :)
[02:06 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Talk of the devil...
[02:06 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Pila :)
[02:06 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Aloha :)
[02:06 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: :)
[02:06 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: heheh
[02:06 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Roobi
[02:06 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Roobi :)
[02:06 PM]  Chi Aho: hey, Roobi
[02:06 PM]  Agatha Macbeth waves to Pila - Over here!
[02:07 PM]  Roobi Doobie: hi eeryone
[02:07 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Hello
[02:07 PM]  Pila Mulligan: grettings :)
[02:07 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Pila!
[02:07 PM]  Pila Mulligan apologies for tardiness
[02:07 PM]  Pila Mulligan: yo Burce -- nice to see you :)
[02:07 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Not at all, we're about to start.
[02:08 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: No problem...we were just starting
[02:08 PM]  Pila Mulligan: and everyone
[02:08 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: So, who has the speaking feather? :)
[02:08 PM]  Pila Mulligan: ... shall we start then?
[02:09 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Sitting Bull?
[02:09 PM]  Pila Mulligan: What do you think is an important idea or subject?
[02:09 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Sure :) Would you like to start us off Pila?
[02:09 PM]  Pila Mulligan: want an appetizer?
[02:09 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Then go counter clockwise to Agatha etc.
[02:09 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Sure :)
[02:09 PM]  Pila Mulligan: from I Ching Workshop sesssion Tuesday:
a: karma
b: exploration and understanding
c: love grace joy understanding right action
d: anything that can help me apply what I know
e: difference is an important idea for me these days
[02:09 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: No, go the other way :p
[02:09 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: lol
[02:09 PM]  Pila Mulligan: we did the same Question
[02:09 PM]  Pila Mulligan: then
[02:10 PM]  Pila Mulligan: I'll begin: the practical value of ethics
[02:10 PM]  Pila Mulligan: whose next?
[02:11 PM]  Chi Aho: do we need to go around in a circle?
[02:11 PM]  Pila Mulligan: ?
[02:11 PM]  Pila Mulligan: probably not
[02:11 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Yes we've decided to do so to begin with.
[02:11 PM]  Pila Mulligan: ok
[02:11 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: After that we can just chat as usual?
[02:11 PM]  Pila Mulligan: Ags?
[02:11 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Mm?
[02:12 PM]  Pila Mulligan: ... an important idea or subject?
[02:12 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: You don't have to say of course Agatha :)
[02:12 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Seems entirely subjective to me
[02:13 PM]  Pila Mulligan: yes, it is
[02:13 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Yes we're inviting everyone to offer ideas or subjects that are important to them.
[02:13 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Ah, I'm no good at that
[02:13 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[02:13 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: I know the feeling :)
[02:13 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: I'll just listen
[02:13 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Pass on then :)
[02:13 PM]  Roobi Doobie: well.. today chi and i had a short discusion...i wanted to know how it feels to be in love
[02:13 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Roobi?
[02:13 PM]  Pila Mulligan: :)
[02:14 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: ok thank you :)
[02:14 PM]  Roobi Doobie: and... chi told me to think about how i feel
[02:15 PM]  Roobi Doobie: i said.. i love to cook.. but i dont know wot its like to love err show love i mean
[02:15 PM]  Roobi Doobie: and he said... roobs u need to be loved ?
[02:16 PM]  Roobi Doobie fidgets with her fingers
[02:16 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: :)
[02:16 PM]  Chi Aho: If its my turn, I will just say that I would like to hear a serious discussion of character; we seem to neglect that and have substituted "personality" instead. Maybe character as the moral dimension of personality.
[02:16 PM]  druth Vlodovic: I'm afraid I didn't come prepared, Bruce?
[02:17 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: I will make a notecard of all the ideas and pass on at the end.
[02:17 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Zen :)
[02:17 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: Two of Pila's ideas might relate to what I have in mind . . d: anything that can help me apply what I know
e: difference is an important idea for me these days
[02:17 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Top o' the evenin' Zen
[02:17 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Zen :)
[02:17 PM]  Pila Mulligan: hi Zen
[02:17 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus likes D, too
[02:18 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: I am especially interested in the ideas of Balance . . . and resting.
[02:18 PM]  Zen Arado: Hi all :)
[02:18 PM]  Agatha Macbeth smiles @ bruce
[02:18 PM]  Roobi Doobie: hello zen nice to meet u
[02:18 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: and whether to learn how to rest in any point - whether balanced or not.
[02:18 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: I am physically having challenges with balance and coordination right now -
[02:19 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: but I see this as a mirrow of the larger aspects of my life, also.
[02:19 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Well just be careful
[02:19 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: so Balance, and Rest.
[02:19 PM]  Pila Mulligan: :)
[02:19 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: Those are my topics.
[02:19 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: (But I also like the ideasof "character")
[02:19 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Mm...those are good, Bruce, but I hope the challenges get easier :)
[02:19 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Hi Cal :)
[02:19 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: Gaya?
[02:20 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Calvino :) I will make a list and hand out a notecard at the end.
[02:20 PM]  Pila Mulligan: hi Cal
[02:20 PM]  Zen Arado: Hi Cal :)
[02:20 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: hi everyone :)
[02:20 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Hello Cal
[02:20 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Cal.
[02:20 PM]  Roobi Doobie smiles at Calvino
[02:21 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: How to avoid the dualistic thinking pattern ... I read a quote by Dalai Lama today about peace for exaxmple.
[02:21 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: It's not an absence of violence or disturbance. It just means how one acts in those circumstances etc.
[02:21 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: If we hear non attachment, we sometimes think it means no caring.
[02:22 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: How to avoid this kind of narrow understandings.
[02:22 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: I like that.
[02:22 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Oops
[02:23 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Zen's next :)
[02:23 PM]  Chi Aho: Is peace and violence the topic, or are we still going around the circle?
[02:23 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Chi, we are just gathering ideas at the moment.
[02:23 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: We're still going around the circle :)
[02:23 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: wb Pil
[02:23 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: wb Pila
[02:23 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: We don't have a topic otherwise for today yet :)
[02:23 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: wb Pila
[02:23 PM]  Zen Arado: the topic is topics I think
[02:23 PM]  Zen Arado: :)
[02:23 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: :D
[02:23 PM]  Pila Mulligan: thanks
[02:23 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Yes :)
[02:23 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: i'm interested in the bigger frame about this ... call it "spiritual intelligence" and secondly as part of that, "emotional intelligence"
[02:24 PM]  Zen Arado: perhaps we need to frame questions? Or does that narrow the topic too much?
[02:25 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: any intelligence principle integrates some opposites, and without that intelligent combination, any quality like compassion or anything else is potentially a distortion and limitation
[02:25 PM]  druth Vlodovic: I guess I'm our of turn but how about "the effects of goal orientation"
[02:25 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: So just Zen and Atari left :)
[02:25 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: (sorry to be late, and to go out of turn, if that's what's going )
[02:26 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: np :)
[02:26 PM]  Zen Arado: apres vous Violet :)
[02:26 PM]  Chi Aho: druth, you mean such as frustration and success?
[02:26 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: ( It's not a problem :) )
[02:26 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Okay, I thought of two ideas which can branch off in a lot of ways....
[02:26 PM]  druth Vlodovic: requiring direction (and topics) lol
[02:27 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: One is how to practice concepts like mindfulness, awareness and detachment in everday life; and the second is understanding those concepts, which I think is similar to what Gaya suggested
[02:27 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Would like to hear :)
[02:28 PM]  Zen Arado: that's broadly what we discuss - but facetas of it every week?
[02:28 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Yes
[02:28 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: I guess I'm pretty content :)
[02:28 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[02:29 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel gave you June 09 WoK Ideas.
[02:29 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Thanks, Gaya :)
[02:29 PM]  Zen Arado: maybe we need to narrow it a bit so we can fit it in each week thoigh?
[02:29 PM]  Zen Arado: ust my thought
[02:29 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: I think today's meeting is really important because we are all hosts and participants.
[02:30 PM]  Zen Arado: yes
[02:30 PM]  Pila Mulligan: does anyone see any pattern in terms of similarities of ideas?
[02:30 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... reading and thinking ...
[02:30 PM]  Chi Aho: Is the idea for each one of us to plan to lead a discussion of his/her chosen topic?
[02:31 PM]  Pila Mulligan: thats an idea Chi, but the first expression of it as far as I know
[02:31 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Chi, normally we choose a topic for next week at the end of each meeting or over the coming weekend.
[02:31 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: We don't have a leader as such ...
[02:31 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: It's a free form discussion.
[02:32 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Application was mentioned by both Pila and Atari?
[02:32 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Yes, Pila...I think we're all concerned with the experience of being; what it means to be, what qualities mean, how to be aware of our qualities and how to embody them?...
[02:33 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: (And Bruce :) )
[02:33 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: yes
[02:33 PM]  Zen Arado: is it my turn yet?
[02:34 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Sure go for it Zen, thought you were just passing.
[02:34 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Please, Zen :)
[02:34 PM]  Pila Mulligan: Zen's turn
[02:34 PM]  Zen Arado: me pass? :)
[02:34 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[02:34 PM]  Zen Arado: I am interested in jealosy and it's connection with monogamy
[02:35 PM]  Pila Mulligan: :)
[02:35 PM]  Pila Mulligan: biggy
[02:35 PM]  Zen Arado: I actually found a Buddhist article whch deals with it this week
[02:35 PM]  Zen Arado: http://www.tricycle.com/my-view/what...lousy?page=0,1
[02:35 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: OK let me pass on a revised notecard :P
[02:35 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel gave you June 09 WoK Ideas.
[02:36 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: Is that a "character" issue. Zen? or a moral one? or some combination -- perhaps of character and awareness?
[02:36 PM]  druth Vlodovic: an "attachment" topic
[02:36 PM]  Zen Arado: "As people become more whole and are freed from certain basic fears (of abandonment, of unworthiness, of engulfment), new possibilities may open up for the expression of embodied love, and what was once perceived as undesirable, threatening, or even morally questionable might well feel natural, safe, and wholesome. This would, I believe, include forms of sexual expression that extend beyond the constraints of conventional monogamy. In short, once jealousy loosens its grip on the self, human love can attain a wider dimension of embodiment in our lives that may naturally lead to the mindful cultivation of more inclusive intimate connections."
[02:36 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: yes, "attachment" seems part of it too.
[02:36 PM]  Zen Arado: that's the flavor of it
[02:37 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Jealousy and attachment is a good thread to follow....
[02:37 PM]  druth Vlodovic: c: love grace joy understanding right action
[02:37 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: attachment in its psychological meaning
[02:37 PM]  Pila Mulligan: perhaps akin to emotional intelligence
[02:37 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: yes
[02:37 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: yes
[02:37 PM]  Zen Arado: yes
[02:38 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Another way to branch off from that could be: compassionate versus romantic love
[02:38 PM]  Zen Arado: and maybe our ideas are outdated
[02:38 PM]  Chi Aho sees a connection with Roobi's topic
[02:38 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: yes
[02:38 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Yes, I think our ideas all meet somewhere :)
[02:38 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: And there is ethics mentioned in Pila and Chi's ideas.
[02:39 PM]  Zen Arado: I can post the first 2 or 3 chapters of a book called 'The Ethical Slut' if anyone is interested
[02:39 PM]  Zen Arado: it is challenging stuff
[02:40 PM]  Zen Arado: not saying I agree with the authors ideas
[02:40 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Isn't it breaching copyright?
[02:40 PM]  Zen Arado: ok maybe not
[02:40 PM]  druth Vlodovic: who is the author?
[02:40 PM]  Zen Arado: I as given it on a notecard
[02:40 PM]  Zen Arado: though I have the book
[02:40 PM]  Zen Arado: two authors
[02:40 PM]  Pila Mulligan: after survivial (as a need) sexuality is powerful stuff in terms of instinct vs. intuition
[02:41 PM]  Roobi Doobie: cant u give us a brief outline of her ethics
[02:41 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Using exceprts for a starting point might work, though
[02:41 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: yes maybe not 2 chapters :)
[02:41 PM]  Zen Arado: http://www.amazon.com/Ethical-Slut-P...7655692&sr=8-1
[02:42 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: I'm not sure but why people so bothered about sex?
[02:42 PM]  Zen Arado: I made Google notes on the first chapter or two
[02:42 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: It's not that huge ...
[02:42 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Maybe they don't get any...
[02:42 PM]  Zen Arado: :)
[02:42 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: :(
[02:43 PM]  Zen Arado: it's more about love and jealousy
[02:43 PM]  Zen Arado: possessiveness
[02:43 PM]  Zen Arado: etc
[02:43 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: "This book is the definitive guide to having your marriage and eating other people too."
[02:43 PM]  Zen Arado: just an idea
[02:43 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: I think it's an interesting topic indeed.
[02:43 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: It's a good thread to follow :)
[02:43 PM]  druth Vlodovic: and about teaching people to see themselves as inherently "bad" and untrustworthy
[02:43 PM]  Zen Arado: actually I think they go too far
[02:44 PM]  Chi Aho: And the basis of dealing with love and jealousy and possessiveness is first of all to work toward becoming a whole human being, living a life of integrity - then you can truly love another person.
[02:44 PM]  Roobi Doobie: i read briefly... its about open relationships too ...
[02:44 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps what bothers folks, although they might not be aware of it, is Separation -- the illusion that there are major differences among us that really exist and that really matter - - when (perhaps) separation in all forms is actually the grandest illusion of all.
[02:44 PM]  Zen Arado: but interesting challeng to monogamy
[02:44 PM]  Zen Arado: yeh
[02:44 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: separation generates the energy of life
[02:44 PM]  Zen Arado: monogamy is a kind of exclusiveness
[02:44 PM]  Zen Arado: a kind of separation
[02:45 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: You feel it hinders one from having a spiritual life?
[02:45 PM]  Zen Arado: or just concentarate on how you deal with jealousy
[02:46 PM]  druth Vlodovic: and it could tie back to character as well, adhering to any difficult moral can build personal strength, unless carried to a destructive degree
[02:46 PM]  Zen Arado: or whether becoming a mionk is the the most desirable state?
[02:47 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Maybe your comment ties to Pila's idea - e: difference is an important idea for me these days
[02:47 PM]  Pila Mulligan: by the way -- a. thru e. on that list were from a workshop earlier this week, not form me :)
[02:47 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Cal's comment fits snugly in there, too...
[02:48 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[02:48 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: So jealousy is a good topic then. We probably will talk about love, attachment and ethics.
[02:48 PM]  Pila Mulligan: we all seem to be looking at how to get a handle on life
[02:49 PM]  Bruce Mowbray ponders "emotional intelligence" and celibacy, monasticism, honoring of one's individual path/character, etc.
[02:49 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Yes ... sometimes I feel that seeing what is true is much easier than application of it.
[02:49 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Or how to let go of the handles more gracefully :)
[02:49 PM]  Pila Mulligan: :)
[02:49 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Probably that's why I found Confucianism more difficult :P
[02:49 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: heheh Atari :)
[02:50 PM]  Zen Arado: how much does discussion help?
[02:50 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: But in a way though, there's a limit to learning techniques/handles.
[02:50 PM]  Pila Mulligan: yes, I was thinking more in terms of understanding than manipulation
[02:50 PM]  Zen Arado: can discussion be a hindrance?
[02:50 PM]  Pila Mulligan: wrods can Zen
[02:51 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: I think it's important to communicate ... but yes it can go either way.
[02:51 PM]  Pila Mulligan: words* even
[02:51 PM]  Pila Mulligan: but mental telepathy is still under develpoment
[02:51 PM]  Zen Arado: :)
[02:51 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: That's a clearer distinction than I would have made, Pila :)
[02:51 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: :)
[02:51 PM]  Zen Arado: lol
[02:51 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Communication is invaluable....but talking can sometimes keep us from communicating
[02:52 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: I think discussion helps to the degree it "stands in the gap" of life as it is, rather than trying to adopt an as-if-knowing position
[02:52 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: I think things take time ... even getting to know each other.
[02:53 PM]  Zen Arado: it is a way of exposing weaknesses in out thinking perhaps?
[02:53 PM]  Zen Arado: or in our practice
[02:53 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: wow ... already we're nearing the end of the meeting ...
[02:53 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Mm....or learning from others'
[02:53 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: in a way, thinking is weakest where it attempts to be strong
[02:54 PM]  Zen Arado: yes Violet
[02:54 PM]  Zen Arado: agree Cal
[02:54 PM]  Pila Mulligan: teachings and practice, or dharma, are supposed to be of help -- discussion may be part of finding that help
[02:55 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Yes. It's important to share.
[02:55 PM]  Zen Arado: yes
[02:55 PM]  Bruce Mowbray suspects that readiness to grow, become more aware, and to change all have a large part in it.
[02:55 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Yes ... but time to allow things to sink in too in between.
[02:55 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: I agree, Gaya
[02:56 PM]  Zen Arado: yes Bruce and Gaya
[02:56 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: emotional intelligence might take a long time to develop, depending on readiness, resistances, circumstances, etc.
[02:57 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: .. age
[02:57 PM]  Zen Arado: yeh and experiences
[02:57 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: And those of everyone around you, as well as your own
[02:57 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: YES
[02:57 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: yes
[02:57 PM]  Zen Arado: being open to experience
[02:57 PM]  Chi Aho: Bruce, read on the education of feeling - Google Joseph Chilton Pearce
[02:57 PM]  druth Vlodovic: what are the characteristics of a person who is emotionally intelligent?
[02:57 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: stable?
[02:57 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: being honest in our openness.
[02:58 PM]  Zen Arado: equanimity?
[02:58 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: self monitoring, good at relating to diversity
[02:58 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Sincerity and depth of compassion?
[02:58 PM]  Chi Aho: To feel, to care, to love, to have compassion, to develop our empathic powers - that is all necessary work
[02:58 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: seeing bigger contexts, not run by emotions, but motivated
[02:58 PM]  Zen Arado: yes Chi
[02:58 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: empathic insight,
[02:58 PM]  Chi Aho: all necessay for the transformation of character and emotional development
[02:58 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: some integration of shadow parts of self
[02:59 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: I like that, Cal..."not run by emotions, but motivated" :)
[02:59 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: begger contexts and more profound connections on all levels, perhaps.
[02:59 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: But isn't there a danger to heed emotions too much?
[02:59 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: bigger*
[02:59 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: sees limitations as co-created
[02:59 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: It's important but emotions can't be the only guide.
[02:59 PM]  Pila Mulligan: balance and rest, as Bruce said :)
[02:59 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Yes!
[02:59 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: has emotions integrated with other capacities
[03:00 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: symbiotic combination
[03:00 PM]  Chi Aho: With emotional development there can be moral development
[03:00 PM]  Calvino Rabeni: knows when emotions are saying something about reality, versus about a fantasy figure
[03:00 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: time for me to get rest - right now. May all be well and happy. THANKS, Gaya, and everyone.
[03:00 PM]  Chi Aho: then spiritual development
[03:00 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Take care Bruce :)
[03:00 PM]  Zen Arado: bye Bruce
[03:00 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Be well, Bruce :)
[03:00 PM]  Pila Mulligan: very nice to see you again Bruce, be well
[03:00 PM]  Zen Arado: NTSY
[03:00 PM]  Roobi Doobie: ty everyone... i need also rest and to digest !
[03:00 PM]  Bruce Mowbray: thanks, everyone.
[03:00 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Yes ... shall we continue next week?
[03:00 PM]  Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bruce, take care
[03:01 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: I can send a summary of a sort in email but you guys all so quiet :P
[03:01 PM]  Pila Mulligan: :)
[03:01 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: I watch :)
[03:01 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: heheh
[03:01 PM]  Pila Mulligan just when resting
[03:02 PM]  Roobi Doobie: ty gaya.. and everyone
[03:02 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Bye Roobi :)
[03:02 PM]  Agatha Macbeth waves
[03:02 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Take care, Roobi :)
[03:02 PM]  Zen Arado: bye Roobie
[03:02 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: And Ags!
[03:02 PM]  Pila Mulligan: good luck on the path to love Roob
[03:02 PM]  Roobi Doobie smiles
[03:02 PM]  Roobi Doobie: its a long and winding road
[03:02 PM]  Zen Arado: (Tuesday) ?
[03:02 PM]  Pila Mulligan: bye Ags
[03:02 PM]  Pila Mulligan: :)
[03:03 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Shall we develop a bit more of what we discussed and continue next week then?
[03:03 PM]  Pila Mulligan: sure
[03:03 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Havingn a week to think over is always good for me.
[03:03 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Sure :)
[03:03 PM]  Zen Arado: yeh sure
[03:03 PM]  Gaya Ethaniel: Great nice to see you all again :) Have a good week.
[03:03 PM]  Pila Mulligan: and to you Gaya
[03:03 PM]  Chi Aho: ty, Gaya
[03:03 PM]  Ataraxia Azemus: Take care, Gaya, everyone :)
[03:03 PM]  Zen Arado: you too and everyone :)
[03:04 PM]  Zen Arado: bye
[03:04 PM]  Chi Aho: bye Zen
[03:04 PM]  Roobi Doobie: bye all
[03:04 PM]  Pila Mulligan: bye